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Auteur: Mike Gogulski
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Aan: System undo crew
Onderwerp: Re: [unSYSTEM] #NSA #PRISM #Hadoop #Bitcoin @BTCFoundation
There's a Bitcoin-plus meetup coming together in Berlin for Aug 1-4 and
surrounding dates, centered on room77.de. I suggest that might be a
place to conspire.

On 06/15/2013 05:34 PM, Cody R Wilson wrote:
> I and my organizational resources are here to help achieve this
> wresting away. Say the word.
>
> I can be where you are within 48 hours as well.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Mike Gogulski <mike@???
> <mailto:mike@gogulski.com>> wrote:
>
>     This all goes to prove, in my mind and the minds of some others around
>     me, that even nominal control of the canonical Bitcoin codebase
>     needs to
>     be wrested away, by hook or by crook, from @BTCFoundation, and
>     especially from Gavin and Garzik, and/or supplanted by something else.

>
>     libbitcoin is one possibility, Amir, but as we've discussed the
>     license
>     is limiting and there needs to be a native C API rather than C++.

>
>     Bits of Proof is also doing interesting work:
>     http://bitsofproof.com/?page_id=34 (see resources section)

>
>     On 06/15/2013 10:35 AM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>     > It goes even deeper. The NSA was an active developer of the open
>     > source project Hadoop.
>     >
>     > The NSA doesn’t just use Hadoop. NSA programmers have improved and
>     > extended Hadoop and donated their changes and additions back to the
>     > larger community. The CIA actively invests in start-ups that are
>     > commercializing Hadoop and other open source projects.

>     >
>     > Source:

>     >

>     >
>     http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/14/1216254/-NSA-and-CIA-helped-commercial-firms-develop-data-mining-capabilities

>     >
>     > Bitcoin regulation thing is in full swing now. The excuse that
>     it will
>     > help grow Bitcoin by complying regulation is ignoring the fact that
>     > regulation is ALWAYS a creeping growing thing, and that this sort of
>     > corruption of the purity of the Bitcoin system will destroy its
>     integrity.

>     >
>     > Gavin Andresen, lead core Bitcoin developer and chief scientist
>     says:

>     >
>     > I'm a pragmatist, so if putting star patches on my air guitar gives
>     > the people in power warm fuzzies, I'm happy to do it. I'll ask them
>     > exactly what type of star they'd like me to use and exactly where
>     > they'd like me to apply it, and while they were busy figuring that
>     > out I'll be busy working hard to get a few million more air guitar
>     > users.

>     >
>     > Being a majority protects people from assaults.

>     >
>     > http://i40.tinypic.com/f0ql40.png

>     >
>     > This kind of attitude will destroy and corrupt the core integrity of
>     > the Bitcoin system, in the same way that censoring websites and
>     giving
>     > preference to traffic on the internet corrupts the neutrality of the
>     > medium.

>     >
>     > People are arguing that the regulation expected of Bitcoin is
>     not that
>     > bad. But regulation is ALWAYS creeping. It grows and grows.

>     >
>     > These people are totally satisfied with the status quo. They are
>     only
>     > into Bitcoin because they've found their niche where they can cling
>     > on. Otherwise they don't care about its revolutionary
>     properties. They
>     > are comfortable already in their lives.

>     >
>     > Financial Times article this weekend:

>     >

>     >
>     http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/910858fa-d3bf-11e2-95d4-00144feab7de.html

>     >
>     > They called their conference "Bitcoin 2013: The Future of Payments".
>     > They see Bitcoin as a payments innovation to help make the financial
>     > system more efficient. They want to protect their profits, and
>     dislike
>     > government because they take too much of their income - not
>     because of
>     > any evils they commit overseas or to poor people.

>     >
>     > And anyone claiming that Bitcoin is revolutionary and that drug
>     > markets are great is a threat to the legitimate front they are
>     putting
>     > up, and the legitimate businesses they are creating.

>     >
>     > On 15/06/13 00:35, R C wrote:

>     > >

>     >
>     http://www.prisonplanet.com/nyc-introduces-bill-to-outlaw-3d-printed-guns.html

>     >

>     >

>     >

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> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Cody R. Wilson
> codywilson@??? <mailto:codywilson@utexas.edu>
>
> The University of Texas School of Law
> Class of 2014
>
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