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This all goes to prove, in my mind and the minds of some others around
me, that even nominal control of the canonical Bitcoin codebase needs to
be wrested away, by hook or by crook, from @BTCFoundation, and
especially from Gavin and Garzik, and/or supplanted by something else.

libbitcoin is one possibility, Amir, but as we've discussed the license
is limiting and there needs to be a native C API rather than C++.

Bits of Proof is also doing interesting work:
http://bitsofproof.com/?page_id=34 (see resources section)

On 06/15/2013 10:35 AM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> It goes even deeper. The NSA was an active developer of the open
> source project Hadoop.
>
> The NSA doesn’t just use Hadoop. NSA programmers have improved and
> extended Hadoop and donated their changes and additions back to the
> larger community. The CIA actively invests in start-ups that are
> commercializing Hadoop and other open source projects.
>
> Source:
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/14/1216254/-NSA-and-CIA-helped-commercial-firms-develop-data-mining-capabilities
>
> Bitcoin regulation thing is in full swing now. The excuse that it will
> help grow Bitcoin by complying regulation is ignoring the fact that
> regulation is ALWAYS a creeping growing thing, and that this sort of
> corruption of the purity of the Bitcoin system will destroy its integrity.
>
> Gavin Andresen, lead core Bitcoin developer and chief scientist says:
>
> I'm a pragmatist, so if putting star patches on my air guitar gives
> the people in power warm fuzzies, I'm happy to do it. I'll ask them
> exactly what type of star they'd like me to use and exactly where
> they'd like me to apply it, and while they were busy figuring that
> out I'll be busy working hard to get a few million more air guitar
> users.
>
> Being a majority protects people from assaults.
>
> http://i40.tinypic.com/f0ql40.png
>
> This kind of attitude will destroy and corrupt the core integrity of
> the Bitcoin system, in the same way that censoring websites and giving
> preference to traffic on the internet corrupts the neutrality of the
> medium.
>
> People are arguing that the regulation expected of Bitcoin is not that
> bad. But regulation is ALWAYS creeping. It grows and grows.
>
> These people are totally satisfied with the status quo. They are only
> into Bitcoin because they've found their niche where they can cling
> on. Otherwise they don't care about its revolutionary properties. They
> are comfortable already in their lives.
>
> Financial Times article this weekend:
>
> http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/910858fa-d3bf-11e2-95d4-00144feab7de.html
>
> They called their conference "Bitcoin 2013: The Future of Payments".
> They see Bitcoin as a payments innovation to help make the financial
> system more efficient. They want to protect their profits, and dislike
> government because they take too much of their income - not because of
> any evils they commit overseas or to poor people.
>
> And anyone claiming that Bitcoin is revolutionary and that drug
> markets are great is a threat to the legitimate front they are putting
> up, and the legitimate businesses they are creating.
>
> On 15/06/13 00:35, R C wrote:
> >
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/nyc-introduces-bill-to-outlaw-3d-printed-guns.html
>
>
>
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