hello all,

great discussion, would love to contribute later, did not make it yesterday, but will be in helsinki in may, i think yes it is time for a strategic discussion of how strong or not 'we' are to start saying goodbye to institutionalised forms of knowledge and learning, and if we can advise that to young people,

greetings, rob

On 06 Dec 2012, at 02:39, Suzon Fuks <suzon@???> wrote:

> Yes...it is important to talk about 'live' knowledge (or give it another
> name) developing new modalities and different relations...
> Still important to give examples.
>
> Sz
>
>
> On 5/12/12 8:24 PM, "Felipe Fonseca" <felipefonseca@???> wrote:
>
>> Hi Suzon
>>
>> I think we're still around a campfire...
>>
>> Those excerpts, I believe, are from a text from Marcelo Delcampo that
>> Rob sent to the bricolabs list and Jerneja pasted in the pad. I for one
>> don't believe in any "transmission model" when it comes to knowledge.
>> Knowledge is built anew everytime, etc. OTOH, non-profitable exchange of
>> knowledge is old news, I reckon. Way older than the industry wants to
>> believe.
>>
>> About the thematic constellation, I too can read it as making sense
>> here: personal agency on collaborative efforts. But hey Rob, what do you
>> think?
>>
>> efe
>>
>> On 05-12-2012 22:24, Suzon Fuks wrote:
>>> I am not sure I can comment on what you have done BUT.... this is good
>>> to
>>> read the piratepad to understand better who/what is/are bricolabs, apart
>>> from being people around a camp fire as I have been told before! :-)...
>>> It seems like a group which knows each other for a long time and pretty
>>> difficult to understand how it grows, and opens....
>>>
>>> I didn't have time to come on IRC chat (at least to meet you) as this
>>> is a
>>> crazy week for me...
>>>
>>> The idea of doing something on the ferry sounds nice!
>>>
>>> I found this point very important:
>>> "there should be a revalidation of a transmission model based on
>>> non-profitable exchange of knowledge" but I am not sure to understand
>>> in
>>> which ways concretely it is done... Is it possible to have examples?
>>>
>>> I am not sure I understand the last sentence (I can interpret it in
>>> different ways): "Thematic constellation of working groups where
>>> decentralized collaborative environments is being enabled this time
>>> thru
>>> a f2f process/production" (?)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Suzon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/12/12 6:41 PM, "Felipe Fonseca" <felipefonseca@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> sent 20 minutes prior to deadline...
>>>>
>>>> http://piratepad.net/bricolabspixelache
>>>>
>>>> the pad is also attached to the submission itself. we can keep on
>>>> changing it until we get tired of it. ian reminded me of the bricolabs
>>>> website, maybe a meeting in helsinki to work on it can be a side
>>>> project...
>>>>
>>>> efe
>>>>
>>>> On 05-12-2012 14:17, Felipe Fonseca wrote:
>>>>> hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> we're on IRC (freenode, #bricolabs). easiest path for the newbies:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://webchat.freenode.net/
>>>>>
>>>>> choose a nickname and insert #bricolabs on "channels". fill the
>>>>> captcha
>>>>> and you're there.
>>>>>
>>>>> efe
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