Ok, now read, and well, yes, I can only agree, esp about not putting HoNF
at risk. Dubai ISEA reads, mutatis mutandis, as the World Summit on the
Information Society in Tunis redux. I guess the same arguments pro and
contra were traded back and forth, while it should have been immediately
obvious that it was a total non-goer. Anyway, I dislike conferences.


> Hi,
>
> At its best, ISEAs can be remarkable critically and influential
> regionally. But depending on the integrity of the hosts or the influence
> of the ISEA itself, they can also be the opposite. And indeed, Dubai ISEA
> should never have been taken seriously even as an option. Most problems
> with ISEA are related with one person, while the board is otherwise much
> more critically oriented. Why he is allowed to continue is beyond me.
>
> When I was on the board, I managed to push the event to be bi-annual,
> because in order to have travel bursaries form international foundations,
> an annual cycle is too much. Also there is not enough new work that
> emerges, so you get much better proposals with less frequency. I think
> they returned to the annual cycle only to get the fee from an organizer to
> the Inter Society every year, because that is almost the only income they
> get, and means to host an annual meeting.
>
> So if you do get the ISEA to Yogja, which I both hope and don't, I can
> give more tactical advice.
>
> Why I hope you would get it is that concept and content wise you would
> deliver a remarkable event, and I would be personally highly motivated to
> participate and contribute. Why I am doubtful is because having organized
> one, it is besides a fruitful experience, also very draining in terms of
> resourcing and how much it takes in logistics, communications, and
> production. If you can, please have another organization than HONF be
> economically responsible of the core budget. HONF is far too precious to
> be at risk because of organizing an ISEA.
>
> So both my support and doubt for doing ISEA Yogja is out of the high
> respect for HONF. :)
> If it happens, it will be a five bintang event, ISEA ASIK!
>
> cheers,
>
> Tapio
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2012, at 08:11 , Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2012, venzha christ wrote:
>>
>>> thanksss Patrice, Tapio, Brian...
>>> the presentation was really great ! :-)
>>> the majority like the idea and ready to support ,
>>> super thanks to Stephen n Nina who always push n support since
>>> beginning
>>> Eve, Jaro, Yto, lets meet again tonite (n talk talk talk) :-)
>>
>> today was really great to know what Yto is doing.
>> real people, real community, good struggle bottom up.
>>
>> about ISEA++ Venzha's bid is the one most people liked, lets get ready
>> for ISEA 2015 in jogja. the alt would be NL and after the brain wash of
>> 2012 it would end up full of fake stuff, sry but right now I can't see
>> how it can ever look good. dubai alone stinks enough.
>>
>> ciao
>>
>>
>>
>>
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