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Asunto: Re: [Bricolabs] storing electricity in air compressors???
Thanks Jean Noel! the mechanical electricty storage sounds like a pretty
crazy idea, would love to see it done... Apadoloup looks great !!! I
checked out the prgram , would love to learn all these things! If you make
some electricity with trees I want to know how! we have lots of trees full
of energy....Maybe one day we can make an event in the colombian jungle? I
have the place! Have fun!!! Vanessa

2012/8/10 Jean-Noël Montagné <jnm@???>

> Hello All....Does anyone know of the possibility of storing enrgy from
>> solar panles in air compressors..
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> about the question:
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> There is one technology running near my place in France for storing energy
> throught compressed air. One positive point is that you can use very small
> and low cost compressor (that can stand in one hand for example) if you
> have time for compressing air. The negative point is that you need to store
> in very expensive and secure tanks ( if you don't want to live near a
> bomb....). Here is the link to this technology http://www.mdi.lu/english/
>
> about the batteries:
>
> I don't agree to this common discourse about batteries: batteries
> engineered in the beginning of the XXth century by Edison ( and discovered
> by a Swedish engineer), very efficient, very solid, still function at 100 %
> of their capacity in 2012. http://www.nickel-iron-**battery.com/<http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/>The design is so solid and effective that one US company has decided to buy
> all old batteries available all over the world and rebuild them in new
> tanks, with the same elements, just washed. http://www.zappworks.com/
> 6 chinese and one Russian companies build new design of iron-ickel
> batteries, but hey don"t use the Edison system and can not guaranty the
> batts for long years ( just 20 years...)
> If you are interested in this technology, I study it for a couple of years
> now ( including DIY process, but with no time to experiment), I have
> harvested a lot of knowledge on this. This year for the first time, I have
> seen a local company in Germany selling the chinese ones. After all this
> positive, the negative: iron is easy to find, but nickel, like copper, will
> run out of extraction in few years: the price of this two unique metals for
> producing, storing energy will join the gold price in less than 20 years.
> This will be the next enormous crisis after petrol crisis in our century
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Copper#Reserves<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper#Reserves>
>
>
> about low cost solutions for enough electricity for light in a house at
> night:
>
> about other solutions if you have solar energy, to put electricity in the
> house for light during the night: it's possible to think to mecanical
> storage, like in our old watches with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**
> Spring_(device) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_%28device%29> . The
> best is to pull a ton of rocks or sand ( one cubic meter) with a
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Block_and_tackle<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_and_tackle>, it can be done with a very small electric motor ( when the sun is at the
> zenith to have more power). The efficiency is correct for this goal.
>
>
> about our hacker camp in the alps: 2 years after
> http://www.estivenumerique.**org/editorial-engl<http://www.estivenumerique.org/editorial-engl> , we organize
> http://apadoloup.wordpress.**com/ <http://apadoloup.wordpress.com/> .
> Paula Velez is here, Benjamin Cadon, Philippe Langlois and other Bricolabs
> member will join us next days. With Paula, we will try to produce
> electricity with a tree, in the same experiment for OSwash.
>
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> JN
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