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Autor: Atteqa Malik
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Assunto: Re: [Bricolabs] Even "The Powers That Be" are starting to Think Brico...
Sounds to me like Mr.Paw is insecure about people who fall outside his
comfort zone
Its definitely not about his English or lack of understanding that Im sure
of
cause he strategically backtracks every stereotyped statement with one that
shows his tolerant side
A lot of his comments are aimed at attracting attention to himself so:
Tell me Mr.Paw whats your real name and how would you define yourself
"sarcastically" if you were one of us Muslims...
and
I wish you peace Brother
lets have a cup of coffee one day ok?



On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:28 PM, John Hopkins <jhopkins@???>wrote:

> Ei J.
>
>
> I think if you stress this point, the majority of the list will agree
>> with you that "proper english" is not a requirement and actually,
>> considering bricolabs is mostly a "public south-to-south network", our
>> use of english as a common (public) language can be seen as a
>> colonialist leftover - or a kind favour to decadent western culture.
>>
>
> Yes, the existence of a shared protocol within a social system (community,
> network) is a strange necessity that is demanding that we comply and yet
> provides the (only!) possible conduit for connection. This goes for English
> as it goes for IP (Internet Protocol) and for the metric system. All
> function similarly to control us and our expressive energies in specific
> ways, pathways. There is no connection without some kind of such protocol.
> Some are more flexible and forgiving than others that are rigid and very
> *unforgiving* while at the same time, flexibility carries the risk of
> mis-communication. This presents us always with a paradox.
>
> And, yes, perhaps I have a bit more restricted (but also deeper)
> understanding of English, as a native speaker. But having lived in
> second-language situations most of my adult life, when I am in such a
> situation, I always give respect to the fact when others are using 'my'
> protocol, as I hope is returned when I am using theirs.
>
> Whenever a new protocol is picked up to be used, the user should be aware
> that great damage may easily occur (in the communicative act) when the
> protocol is not used 'correctly.'
>
> History is littered with the bloody results of such mis-understandings!
>
> If the Battles of Trafalgar and of Cape St Vincent had gone differently,
> indeed we would not be mostly speaking English on this list. Pero la vida
> es un camino extraño, eh?
>
>
> But I believe what moves John to intervene here is mostly your
>> sarcasm, which can be easily perceived as offensive, especially for
>> all those here lacking context about you and western cynical humor in
>> general.
>>
>
> yes, at least emoticons or something. my god, hard humor deployed f2f is
> one thing, and is a marvelous tool for subtle communication of emotive
> energies, but with the reduced and narrow possibilities of this medium,
> jep, keep yer shit 2gether!
>
>
> beautifully said:
>
> You see: if you want to create an un/common ground of discussion among
>> very different people, minimalism is your friend.
>> So to say, keep your shit together. :^)
>>
>
> jh
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