Hi Stephan,

no im a bit confused ~ what is the connection to Sudan here?

I think sustainable houses are adapting to their sourounding ;-)
so Canada as a testbed for Sudan? Reminds me to a discussion at ISEA
Dortmund ~where people in this areas are masters in recycling material
for a second, third ... seventh use. The question there was, how could
we educate and teach the people there ~ but is it not just the opposite,
what we could learn from them? (by the way an old laptop i prepared
nicely with a french linux to Mali~was imidiatly "refurbished" with
windows, who to blame? )

Collaboration needs maybe take the collaborators into account, a never
ending story.

;o)
kiilo



On 05/03/12 17:14, stephen kovats wrote:
> hi John, Rob and Bricos,
>
> the 'house' if planned, built etc ... would be in an easily serviceable location, probably in canada. The issue here - for me, for now, is not to create the stand-alone self supporting system, power generating water waste recycling etc (as with Makrolab, for example) although it is about making as small a footprint as possible. Perhaps another way to look at it is as a 'data autonomous' house.
>
> cheers,
> stephen
>
> On 05.03.2012, at 23:02, John Hopkins wrote:
>
>> On 3/5/12 06:36, Jean-Noël Montagné wrote:
>>
>> agreed J-N!
>>
>>>> In your opinions, what would or could an 'Internet of Things' ... or 'Open
>>>> Source' house be, and how would this differ from obvious experiments in green,
>>>> efficient and digitally responsive architectures?
>> probably useful to first check on the availability of electricity, and the stability, areal extent, and quality. Most places in the techno-social periphery have supplies that are good (clean enough) for reliably running 'fridges, lights, and other DC objects -- but for use with step-down transformers (any small electronic device operates this way), the instability wreaks havoc (I'm sure some of you have experienced this effect -- that lovely whizzzzzz-pop! sound that an air-gap/induction transformer (converter) makes when it gets a voltage spike. The smell is unmistakable!
>>
>> No use deploying a high-tech plan if you have to run it on battery or generator or other unstable E supply... In the first two cases, it simply causes a deeper dependency on the globally-deployed techno-social infrastructure (which erases any gains of autonomous sustainability....)...
>>
>>> 1/I don't want my house, my life, being monitored in real time, as my websurf is
>>> monitored anytime by the BigBrowser vampires.
>> jep...
>>
>> cheers,
>> jh
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