hi bricos

did the reader get any further, or the thought to take this discussion beyond this list?

it would be important to document more concrete situations like jaromil's that show the down side of a top-down corporate smart city approach.

if no one minds i will share this discussion with the programming group at the futureeverything conference, as we will have some city sessions, coming out of the open data cities project.

drew




On 27 Dec 2011, at 15:15, Jaromil wrote:

>
>>> so far looks like a line-up of hyper-optimistic fully connected people
>>> of the future, I'm just wondering if there will be some brico there or
>>> at least criticism, or if the city of amsterdam is really sinking into
>>> techno-sensor-blink... what do you think?
>
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Patrice Riemens wrote:
>
>> Check! The city of I-AMSTERDAM has sunk into
>> techno-sensor-blink-bling-bling for quite some time already. And the
>> organisers have probably one major goal in mind: stay cosy with the
>> movers and shakers at City Hall in order not to loose their
>> subsidies (which they will anyway), and hence be 'positive'...
>
> OTOH here in center-south .it (southern politics, milder primitivism)
> the situation is sensor intensive, while noone knows how to read the
> sensors. what is visible to the foreign visitor is that there are no
> more internet cafes, since anti-terrorist laws were enforced to ask an
> ID to everyone connecting to the Internet and then most clubs, circles
> and small internet shops had to close for lacking the capacity to
> provide secure identification of their customers - be it because they
> thought its unethical, unpolite or simply unfeasible.
>
> The only public internet found is given by the municipality, which
> knows well how to handle identification of course, does it via a
> website where one declares his/her own identity and gets checked back
> via a GSM SIM contract available at mobile telco shops.
>
> no more E street shuffle sir, that's just a dusty song in the Boss
> vinyl I used to play here at my parents place.
>
> ciao
>
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