> thank you all for your feedback,
> I still wonder how to make a international network works,
> without representation or specials (curators) meetings -
> but, maybe I am just optimistic with this list, I don't know why,
> maybe because I enter here 'cos someone told me was a international network
> and I took it as a chalenge...  uau, could this network works? or it is
> just a web-list???
>
> We could be more implicated for our meeting in Ubatuba next year,
> make something happend between this countries, I'm not sure if it is
> here the place to try it,
>
> obs, when I send some video I send it because I think the idea is
> important to the list,
> like tecnoshamanism or the body in the street - scandals - and I think I
> had a kind of participation
> in the creation of this network, from Prestes Maia occupation - sao
> paulo 2003.....
>
> good luck with your eyes patrick
> thank you for the web-list neoscience John Hopkins - I'm there now
> Im not in london right now, Romanian, im in barcelona going to roma
> tomorrow ... so if you have some interesting
> thing in roma please let me know
>
> well... *Cultura Digital* is happening in Brazil right now, I'm sure
> they are in a very good moment of
> meetings, ideas, chalenge, parties,  twitter :
> https://twitter.com/#!/culturadigital
>
> I will see all the links you send, but of course, I always prefer
> something special, at the point,
>
> Let's think about the chalenge: This international network works?
> f
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2011/12/2 James Wallbank <james@??? <mailto:james@lowtech.org>>
>
>     Hi Fabi, Hi All,
>
>     You ask about collaborations - and sometimes there are times when
>     collaboration is tough. Here in the EU there has been a huge, across
>     the board cut in cultural funding, support and available resources.
>
>     Sometimes when people go quiet it's not because they aren't
>     interested - it's because they're WORKING LIKE HELL to survive, and
>     haven't got enough time to discuss the projects they're working on.
>
>     What I like about the Brico list is that I know that people are
>     working on their own projects - sometimes I don't see or hear from
>     Bricos for several years - and then I interact with them again, and
>     it's like there's been no gap at all. Often I find that moves we
>     make, and interests that we develop, are common, even though we
>     haven't discussed them.
>
>     So just to give you all an update, we, in Sheffield, have been
>     WORKING LIKE HELL to get resources, and keep going... and a lots of
>     the actions we have undertaken have been small and local. This year
>     we have been involved in around UKP 1200000 of funding bids
>     (social/digital research, digital inclusion, community arts, adult
>     education...) this year. I personally wrote around half of those
>     (that's a LOT of funding bids, and not interesting to discuss) and
>     up until this week we had raised just UKP 5000!!! In a normal year
>     we would expect to raise around UKP100000 from UKP 300000 of funding
>     bids.
>
>     It seems that things have changed. I expected, with the economic
>     crisis, for our funding success rate to go from 30% to around 15% -
>     but not the <0.5% that has actually materialised!!! It has (quite
>     suddenly) become almost impossible to exist on cultural, educational
>     and economic development funding.
>
>     But are we giving up? Hell, no! Because we are small, and cheap (for
>     the scale of what we deliver) and flexible, we can adapt. So we have
>     an open public centre to run, a team of six, and we've been running
>     out of money to pay people FAST. However, it has been conceptually
>     very interesting, and we have made lots of changes which will allow
>     the project to continue and survive - and even grow.
>
>     There is lots to say about this - but first I have to get some more
>     work done. Watch out for some interesting announcements in the next
>     few weeks.
>
>     ...and maybe over the holiday period I will have some more time for
>     reflection and discussion!
>
>     James
>
>     P.S. Patrick, good luck with your eyes!
>     ====
>
>
>     On 02/12/11 04:34, Patrice Riemens wrote:
>
>         Hear! Hear!
>         I have very little to add since I am mostly a lurker on this
>         list, and
>         only pick up the things I find interesting, but I think we
>         should keep
>         these words by Atteqa in mind - also re: other lists and activities.
>         And on a personal note: I am undergoing eye surgery nest monday.
>         Serious
>         but chance of success are high.
>         Cheers patrizio + Diiiinooos!
>
>
>             to add to the question posed by Fabi
>             My analysis of the diluted flavour on this list could be due
>             to the
>             following reasons:
>
>             a) many people on this list are male and do not have a habit
>             of expressing
>             their feelings and if they feel they have shown any then
>             they need to
>             apologize as they have gone against the status quo
>
>             b) its a european thing
>
>             c)the kind of people and environment that readers and
>             writers here want to
>             create is a noncommiting one, stay objective and youre safe.
>             Its great
>             academic gimmick, I've seen it used in many conferences that
>             I've attended
>             all over the world
>
>             Theres nothing wrong with it, asking people to open up their
>             Pandoras is
>             much more difficult to control for admins and time consuming no?
>
>
>
>             On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:07 PM, fabi
>             borges<catadores@??? <mailto:catadores@gmail.com>>  wrote:
>
>
>                 Why everybody apologizes in this list?
>                 why when I put some video or work, everybody answer to
>                 me particularly,
>                 it is just for serious, very serious subject?
>                 there is some order I don't know?
>
>                 this list could be more simple and more colaborative,
>                 isn't it?
>
>                 apologize, apologize,,,, or....   what?
>
>                 with love ,
>
>                 fabi
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