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Auteur: Molly Hankwitz
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Onderwerp: [Bricolabs] burning question about Mediawiki
Hi Bricolabs, this is my first real post to this list though I started reading a few months ago, when some were talking about autonomous phone networks and OS tools packages for distribution or something. now reading fabi comment, and having just attended a conference on non profit software - I find my "involve" needle climbing a little higher - but, what I'm really asking is very important, tho prolly very naive question...why do ppl find Mediawiki interface so hard and technically scary???? then because they want to "reach" ppl, it's back to FB (that stands for Facebook) and Google...there goes open source! no kidding. OccupySF has a Mediawiki but they barely use it. I started putting up info about readings and reading groups and such. I love Mediawiki and find it easy to use despite lack of color and push button "ease". whatever happened to simple sending of the page URL to circulate content...now FB has "reach"

Molly
by way of intro I am independent scholar of technologies and communication currently working on a couple of books and exhibitions, in experimental media scene.


On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:

>
> ... links to interesting places ...
>
> Another announcement mailinglist, mainly European scene, is Spectre,
> very good in its genre, a reincarnation of the older syndicate...
> http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
>
> there you find lots of announcements... you'll see what I mean. I
> like Spectre and I think Andreas Broeckmann has done a great work in
> networking and still moderating it to an acceptable level of info.
>
> However I think that what we really missed at the time we started
> bricolabs was a discussion list, while the danger to create another
> announcement mailinglist was immediately behind the corner with the
> usual suspects cc'ing their own initiatives here too... made me bark.
>
> well, to those now trying hard to make their cozy heads-up posts
> looking like announcements: no they are not! :^) I'm not (just)
> complaining about personal advertisement, but referring to
> announcements with marketing language used in the fast-food of
> culture, art & science, texts written by corporate communication
> operators... if you don't know what I mean then... oh dear reader, you
> should be always so lucky!
>
> Mailinglists aren't the best medium for announcements anyway: most
> mails are in html anyway, but then they aren't on the web and they
> don't help aggregation... better to use a blog and aggregate via
> Planets, like http://planet.bricolabs.net or http://planet.dyne.org
> (IMHO)
>
> ciao
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011, John Hopkins wrote:
>>
>> I've been running a small mailing list since 1997 called "neoscenes"
>> -- I set it up with my many students in mind, to help keep them
>> informed of interesting things happening 'out there' as I am pretty
>> well connected (as a participant) with a variety of cultural,
>> technical, and social systems and have a data flow across my desk
>> which can be quite provocative.
>>
>> It's a low-volume announcement list (not more than 5 posts weekly)
>> primarily, not much discussion, about 150 people on it. It's pretty
>> stable in size since I haven't been promoting it much lately. If
>> you want to subscribe,
>> http://nujus.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/neoscenes (BTW, thanks to
>> nujus.net for hosting) The list was previously hosted onlistservs
>> at Ars Electronica (Linz), and then Atelier Nord (Oslo), then on a
>> server in Finland, and now nujus!
>>
>> cheers,
>> jh
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