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Personally supervised transfer of a network of 35 computers from pirated propriatory software to open software at our office where we run a family business
This journey ahs been very difficult, has involved convincing users  to shift vision, get windows happy admin to get used to code, learn stuff myself inorder to prevent vindictive users to purposely screw up and waste time
And. Now I'm finding the linux consultants working with me  to have a different set of ethics too which is much cleaner than the others
I'm hoping that by taking this step a positive initiative has taken place and believe me we are still trouble shooting our machines, the software etc, Every week I'm giving about 8 hrs of my time to resolve these issues
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From: august <august@???>
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:04:56 
To: Bricolabs startup mailinglist<brico@???>
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Subject: Re: [Bricolabs] carrot workers guide

Hi,

    This is my first post to the list.  I've been listening now for over
    a month.  I'm a creative technologist living in Oakland, California.
    I devote a lot of my energy to art and free software.

Efe,

    I couldn't agree with you more.  Recently, I find myself in arguments
    with the 30%. They are often of my same type, 30ish with
    post-graduate degrees. I try my best to understand their line of
    reasoning, but only with mixed success.

    Spoken or unspoken, they often imply two things that represent their
    belief structures.  First, they say that absolute equality is not
    possible - because of our "animal spirits" and relative mistrust of
    one another, jealousy, etc. there will always be a world where some
    have more than others.  Secondly, they all seem to feel that the
    majority of the poor are just lazy. 

    On the first argument, I kind of agree.  Some will always be able to
    do more than others. Jealousy about effort and pay could destroy a
    system.  However, if I propose to them a maximum wage of some sort,
    where there can still be (even large) imbalances of wealth, but not
    to an excessive degree, they reject this flat out.  They seem to
    think that capping the wealth that a person can accrue in any way
    would be detrimental to progress and productivity. 

    I then ask them to consider a world where we make less, work less,
    and stress less.  Couldn't a maximum wage aid such a goal, less work
    for all?  Perhaps less productivity.  The argument digresses from
    here saying it would be too difficult to implement. 

    On the second argument, they seem to believe most people in the world
    are lazy.  The righteous go so far to say "you only have a right to
    critique the billionaires when you yourself have EARNED a billion
    dollars"  I then mention statistics that over 50% of billionaires
    were born into their wealth and that upward class mobility is the
    lowest it has been in the US. 

    These are just two re-occurring themes I've noticed here in the States.
    There are more.  Of course, very few here see the international
    scope.  I try to keep myself informed of the various interrelated
    economic systems, but its really not easy.  I know my arguments are
    also incomplete and inexact, probably even naive.  It's simply too
    big of a problem, and I am only one piece in the puzzle.

    I'd be curious to know what kind of conversations you are having.
    I guess I am personally looking for some more focus than just some
    fuzzy and perhaps abstract discontent with the 1% ... or 30%. 

    -august black.

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