Wow. Fascinating insights Dan. I didn't know about the "rose garden"
symbology. Thanks for that information. I agree 100% about the necessity of
including the latest Rosegarden, and would also add that the inclusion of
"PureData" in dyne is a bit pointless to say the least. If you are a media
activist, you are more likely to have studied music theory than
object-oriented programming in depth (which is necessary to use PureData),
and I suspect that the people who can use PureData aren't really "musicians"
in the traditional sense. It looks to me like PureDyne like many distros is
at the moment just tacking on more 1337 stuff willy-nilly.

The other big waste of space for most users but not all, is Blender for 3d.
3D experts can use Blender, but this is only after a lot of study. Nobody
else has any use for it and it seems to be thrown in anyway, with the
attitude that if you can't use it you must be a dumbass/luser (interesting
to know who could use PureData AND Blender). PureData and Blender were both
developed by people with specific needs, and have evolved over time. Those
people who were with it at the beginning obviously find it a piece of cake
to use them. Others are lusers or people looking for a Linux-based challenge
(for whom the actual multimedia work itself is not a top priority).

I have another PC running 64-bit "64 Studio", another TRAC distro with
similar faults. What I'm saying is: things like GIMP and Rosegarden are
useful apps for everyone (so is Ardour), but PureData and Blender should be
optional extra downloadable modules and not bundled.

The evil logos of PureDyne are a bit annoying and stupid. Someone had to
stop being polite and tell you guys it's not funny or cool.

Cheers,

Maxam

On 3/24/07, Dan MacDonald <danboid@???> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I failed to find a package list on the net for
> pure:dyne so I just downloaded and checked it out for
> myself.
>
> The first thing I noticed is that it seemed to take a
> lot longer to boot into X than dyne:bolic. The
> all-black colour scheme got my satanic alarm bells
> ringing which was then confirmed by the pure:dyne
> 'shrine' which pops up when you open FireFox as the
> user is presented with images of Skull n' Crossbones
> and guns splattered with blood- and I thought SuSE was
> bad with all its reptilian symbology! Think again!
>
> If pure:dyne is supposed to be geared more towards
> music production than dyne:bolic then why isn't
> Rosegarden part of pure when its in 'bolic? It's the
> best OSS sequencer I know of. Both distros (ESPECIALLY
> pure) would be greatly enhanced by the inclusion of
> the latest rosegarden and the DSSI plug-ins I've
> mentioned before - xsynth and FluidSynth in
> particular.
>
> (More occultism here in Linux app names too. The rose
> garden in alchemical drawings is a symbol of sacred
> space. It could mean a meditation chamber or
> tabernacle, an altar, a sacred place in nature, or
> paradise itself. In all these instances, the rose
> garden is the mystical bridal chamber, the place of
> the mystic marriage. Also see rosicrucians, the rose
> on the cross etc. I've long considered doing a web
> page or feature on occultism in the world of FOSS as
> it is truly rife)
>
> The other missing app which totally crippled the
> usefulness of pure:evil for me is the absence of xdtv
> aka xawdecode, which is the only Linux app I know of
> which is capable of capturing DVD-res analogue
> (v4l(2)) video at 30fps with real-time capture preview
> etc. that works. Hence it covers a big flaw in
> Cinelerra as its analogue video capture is hopelessly
> broke.
>
> Repent you sinners! ;)
>
> Mystic MacDonald
>
>
>
>
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