Well your persistence has paid off and I shall follow your
directions and try it out. I'll let you know how I get on with my
end user type customization hacking, while I'm waiting for Dyne 2.2.
temp8736@??? wrote:
> Dyne is good, we know. But you missed something important (I think!!).
> I am trying to help!!! A developer friend checked things for me, &
> reports back, that Dyne does a subset of grml.
>
> (1.) Grml can do all Dyne-style configurations AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:
> (2.) a critical one which Dyne can't which makes nomad life MUCH MUCH
> MUCH better.
>
> Details:
>
> (1.) The Dyne-Nomad-style configurations are seen from
>
> http://grml.org/files/release-0.8/grml-cheatcodes.txt
>
> grml tohd=/dev/hda1 Copy CD to HD partition and run from
> there
> grml fromhd=/dev/hda1 Boot from previously copied CD-Image
> grml bootfrom=/dev/hda1/GRML.iso Access image, boot from ISO-Image
> grml myconfig=/dev/fd0 Execute "grml.sh" and extract
> config.tbz from a partition:
> /dev/fd0 for floppy disk
> /dev/sda1 for USB-stick/first
> SCSI-device
> grml home=/dev/hda2 Mount specified partition as grml
> homedir
>
>
> The list goes on, short story: grml does everything Dyne does for
> nomads.
>
> Example: if you want to [copy the grml ISOLINUX/CD image iso file and
> boot it from a hard drive] (="dock"), grml does that, complete with
> ["nonvolatile /home" + "boot customizations"] (="nest"). But forget all
> that, there is a better way!!!!
>
>
> (2.) :-)) grml2hd on USB versus Dyne2: a developer's grand comparison
> chart:
>
> grml2hd script to USB drive
> ---------------------------
> Grml puts normal read-write Debian on the USB drive.
> Hardware detection/configuration: automatic
> Add a new program: apt-get install <program>
> Remove a program: apt-get remove <program>
> Update whole distro: apt-get upgrade
> Save a file: save <file>
>
> Dyne2 "dock" to USB (footnote)
> ------------------------------
> Dyne2 puts a read-only ISOLINUX image on the USB drive.
> Hardware detection/configuration: automatic
> Add a new program: "you can't write to a USB nest [dock?]"
> Remove a program: "you can't write to a USB nest [dock?]"
> Update distro: copy new ISO image to USB drive
> Save a file: "A little bit of a hassle, but I've got a portable
> system."
>
>
> Summary: the grml power for nomads is grml2hd. It dumps ISOLINUX in
> favor of plain Debian with aptitude app manager. Debian already has an
> app manager, why not use it? So: Real true Debian on USB with no
> CD/ISOLINUX/loopback/unionfs/nest tricks.
>
> And grml ships X.org. Adding WindowMaker is just this,
> apt-get intstall wmaker
> grml-x wmaker
>
> Of course --- Dyne would just put WindowMaker in a CD remaster for
> users.
>
> Maybe Dyne can do the "real hard disk install" that's on Dyne's
> wish-list better than grml already has done it, maybe not. Worth at
> least a look!!! Save yourself some development labor!
>
> Comments about your comments,
>
> "Actually, if you can boot from a 4GB+ USB drive you can install any
> version of Linux."
>
> are that
>
> "You can only boot USB with 'any version of Linux' for fixed or
> duplicated PC hardware. A real world 'Nomad' - like the dyne people
> talk about - that particular him or her needs automatic h/w detection
> and setup each boot cycle. Only Knoppixish derivatives do that, and
> none of those I know of run from USB as clean as grml. None of them
> leave you with stock Debian like grml. I'm not sure Ubuntu can work
> that way at all, boot-anywhere with fstab generation etc., with all
> those nice grml boot options. I believe Ubuntu can sing from USB on a
> fixed PC, the hardware which I know in advance, during install, but not
> any arbitrary unknown library/cafe/office/friend's PC you throw at it.
> Grml wins that contest. Thanks for showing it to me."
>
>
> Whew! Hope that helps!!!
> :-0
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> footnote
> http://dynebolic.org/manual/x98.htm
> "In fact when you install new software you don't modify the operating
> system which is made of read-only compressed files (dyne.sys and
> modules, mounted in the /usr and /opt directories) . The writable part,
> where you store your data and settings, is the Nest, which also holds
> all your modifications to the system (overlayed using the Union
> filesystem)"
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