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Author: Drew Hemment
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To: Bricolabs startup mailinglist
Subject: Re: [Bricolabs] curious about this event in amsterdam
A very timely debate, and some great contributions!

A brico reader would be a fantastic resource for everyone working to build independent infrastructures.

On city infrastructures, there are big decisions being made right now, and big debates and battles within city halls, and there is scope to influence them.

A brico reader could make arguments that convince people outside this list, that answer the "so what" response of someone who does not see authentication by a GSM SIM contract a big issue when they cannot afford services for the elderly.

Maybe the amsterdam conference can be a useful straw doll for this debate.

Lets make friends in unlikely places.

Drew


On 27 Dec 2011, at 15:15, Jaromil wrote:

>
>>> so far looks like a line-up of hyper-optimistic fully connected people
>>> of the future, I'm just wondering if there will be some brico there or
>>> at least criticism, or if the city of amsterdam is really sinking into
>>> techno-sensor-blink... what do you think?
>
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Patrice Riemens wrote:
>
>> Check! The city of I-AMSTERDAM has sunk into
>> techno-sensor-blink-bling-bling for quite some time already. And the
>> organisers have probably one major goal in mind: stay cosy with the
>> movers and shakers at City Hall in order not to loose their
>> subsidies (which they will anyway), and hence be 'positive'...
>
> OTOH here in center-south .it (southern politics, milder primitivism)
> the situation is sensor intensive, while noone knows how to read the
> sensors. what is visible to the foreign visitor is that there are no
> more internet cafes, since anti-terrorist laws were enforced to ask an
> ID to everyone connecting to the Internet and then most clubs, circles
> and small internet shops had to close for lacking the capacity to
> provide secure identification of their customers - be it because they
> thought its unethical, unpolite or simply unfeasible.
>
> The only public internet found is given by the municipality, which
> knows well how to handle identification of course, does it via a
> website where one declares his/her own identity and gets checked back
> via a GSM SIM contract available at mobile telco shops.
>
> no more E street shuffle sir, that's just a dusty song in the Boss
> vinyl I used to play here at my parents place.
>
> ciao
>
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