Hi Tito,

On Tue, 2026-06-23 at 21:30 +0200, tito via Dng wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 19:35:13 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 07:55:59 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message
> > <
> > CAPpdf5_Y4vTs4G2wRpv8XwCrpFuww2U2ysg7VcWrVYv_VoQBhA@???>:
> >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > I use a separate system to do initial updates on before I do some
> > > on my main system.
> > > A habit developed quite some time ago on advice from a mentor.
> > >
> > > Did the usrmerge upgrade and then had an unusable system.
> >
> > ..the "usrmerge upgrade" is simply a tactic to destroy Devuan
> > as a viable distro, and makes re-electing Trump look smart.
> >
> > > Stopped there.
> >
> > ..wise.  Now, do we distch Debian as upstream for important stuff,
> > or do we ditch Devuan?  I'm stuck at Daedalus for now, looking for
> > alternatives. 
> >
> > ..usrmerge, systemd, the X.org strangulation etc are tools the
> > fanbois use to destroy GNU/Linux as viable multi use(r) OSes
> > and restrict "it" to a nice single user OS, and you guys fell
> > for it.
> >
> >
> > > Have seen comments which seem to suggest that this usrmerge idea
> > > is
> > > not really a
> > > good idea.
> > >
> > > So do I reinstall Daedalus on my testing system and not bother
> > > upgrading to Excalibur
> > > waiting for perhaps an option where I don't need to use usrmerge
> > > or do
> > > I do an install of
> > > Excalibur removing Daedalus (which is no borked).
> > >
> > > Advice is sought - - - please?
> >
> > ..me, I see porting base system packages from Slackware as the
> > easiest and best way forward, using e.g. alien to convert their
> > packages, or build .deb packages from Slackware sources if alien
> > fails.
> >
>
> Can I suggest PCLinuxOS Debian Edition
>
> https://www.pclosdebian.com/home/about/more
>
I see PCLinuxOS Debian Edition is a systemd-free Trixie derivative, but
doesn't that also imply it implements usrmerge?

So in what way would this improve on Devuan Excalibur if o1bigtenor
would be happy to do a new install?

--
Marjorie