On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 19:35:13 +0200
Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 07:55:59 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message
> <CAPpdf5_Y4vTs4G2wRpv8XwCrpFuww2U2ysg7VcWrVYv_VoQBhA@???>:
>
> > Greetings
> >
> > I use a separate system to do initial updates on before I do some on
> > my main system.
> > A habit developed quite some time ago on advice from a mentor.
> >
> > Did the usrmerge upgrade and then had an unusable system.
>
> ..the "usrmerge upgrade" is simply a tactic to destroy Devuan
> as a viable distro, and makes re-electing Trump look smart.
>
> > Stopped there.
>
> ..wise. Now, do we distch Debian as upstream for important stuff,
> or do we ditch Devuan? I'm stuck at Daedalus for now, looking for
> alternatives.
>
> ..usrmerge, systemd, the X.org strangulation etc are tools the
> fanbois use to destroy GNU/Linux as viable multi use(r) OSes
> and restrict "it" to a nice single user OS, and you guys fell
> for it.
>
>
> > Have seen comments which seem to suggest that this usrmerge idea is
> > not really a
> > good idea.
> >
> > So do I reinstall Daedalus on my testing system and not bother
> > upgrading to Excalibur
> > waiting for perhaps an option where I don't need to use usrmerge or do
> > I do an install of
> > Excalibur removing Daedalus (which is no borked).
> >
> > Advice is sought - - - please?
>
> ..me, I see porting base system packages from Slackware as the
> easiest and best way forward, using e.g. alien to convert their
> packages, or build .deb packages from Slackware sources if alien
> fails.
>

Can I suggest PCLinuxOS Debian Edition

https://www.pclosdebian.com/home/about/more

or if you prefer rpms

https://pclinuxos.com/ The boomer distribution

both are systemd free.

Ciao,
Tito