On 5/5/26 5:57 AM, Erdem via Dng wrote:
> Nick via Dng wrote:
>> On 5/4/26 5:24 PM, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
>>> So my question is would it be better to upgrade the daedalus
>>> installation and change repositories (which means uninstalling a ton
>>> of php packages) or create a new excalibur installation and install
>>> the sury packages on that and migrate everything to the new server?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Curtis
>>>
>> Tough choice. I do run different versions of php on my web server(s)
>> therefore I make use of Docker containers which luckily do not use or
>> need systemd. First install requires some time and patience but after
>> that updating your servers is a breeze. It also helps in giving
>> different sites different memory and CPU resources.
>>
>> ps://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html
> I agree with Nick on using docker though I still use tdrnetworks repo
> (I did not migrate my project to 8.5 yet). Maybe you can try to reach
> to tdr maintainers on this forum post :
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=56266#p56266
> I intentionally put the link of a specific topic because there is also
> a workaround on how to use deb.sury.org (which I did not try).
>
> Best regards,
> Erdem
>
Hello,

I have never liked docker. Too many security issues if they're not
patched as often has the host system. They also use a lot of disk space
and tend to be resource hogs. Thanks, though.

I can imagine that maintaining the tdr repo is a lot of work if not
using an automated build system like Hudson or Jeeves. I was looking to
get php 8.5 to make it available to my customers. ispconfig runs on 8.4.
I don't like ispconfig as much as I like Plesk, but Plesk requires
systemd. ispconfig would like it, too, but I've managed to get around
that. This system started out as Beowulf, but has been upgraded to
Chimaera, then Daedalus. It looks like I'm building a new VM and will
try the sury packages. I have, in the past, built my own php-fpm and it
worked OK. The sury thing is annoying.

--Curtis

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