Author: Didier Kryn Date: To: dng Subject: Re: [DNG] An Anti-Initsystem
Le 01/04/2026 à 14:13, Steve Litt a écrit : > Didier Kryn said on Wed, 1 Apr 2026 12:52:21 +0200
>
>> Le 01/04/2026 à 05:24, Bruce Perens via Dng a écrit :
>>> Rainer's rust diatribe doesn't really have a place on the list and
>>> seems ignorance-based. Like he thinks Rust doesn't support shared
>>> libraries. If he doesn't want to use the language, that is his right.
>>> But this stuff belongs elsewhere.
>> +1
> -1
>
> This demand to take it off list is just what a lot of us put up with,
> on the Debian User list in 2014, when we criticized systemd. Our views
> were called diatribes, rants, whines and whinges.
>
> This is about the languages used to create the Linux kernel, so it's
> perfectly on topic. Rainer didn't resort to personal insults. I should
> know: I was the person he was debating with.
>
> And you know the saddest thing? Everybody, including me, too quickly
> forgot the fact that the original subject of this thread was that
> Rainer had created several tools useful in creating or enhancing an
> init system, which is a wonderful thing. With Rainer's work, s6, runit,
> Nitro, Dinit, and maybe even GNU Shepherd, the next time some fool
> tries to make a weaponized init system claiming it's better than "the
> current one", he won't be able to get away with it.
>
> So Rainer, I'll respond the way I should have responded in the first
> place, by saying T H A N K Y O U !
> I don't call it diatribes, but it seems like a vain repetition of
arguments.
When one has made his point, it is useless to repeat. I was very
tempted to contribute to this dicussion but I refrained for this reason.