Rainer's rust diatribe doesn't really have a place on the list and
seems ignorance-based. Like he thinks Rust doesn't support shared
libraries. If he doesn't want to use the language, that is his right.
But this stuff belongs elsewhere.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 7:05 PM Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
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> Why take it off list? It's on topic. It's about the Linux kernel, for
> gosh sakes.
>
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> Bruce Perens via Dng said on Tue, 31 Mar 2026 16:09:38 -0700
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> >Please take this off the list.
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 4:12 AM Rainer Weikusat via Dng
> ><dng@???> wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve Litt <slitt@???> writes:
> >> > Rainer Weikusat via Dng said on Mon, 30 Mar 2026 11:29:15 +0100
> >> >>Steve Litt <slitt@???> writes:
> >> >
> >> >>> Wait. Did I miss the notice of administrative mandation? Last I
> >> >>> heard, Linus said kernel code could be written in EITHER C or
> >> >>> Rust.
> >> >>
> >> >>This is from a LWN article from 12/13/2025 which paraphrased the
> >> >>Linux DRM maintainer (David Arlie) as follows: [...] the subsystem
> >> >>is only ""about a year away"" from disallowing new drivers written
> >> >>in C and requiring the use of Rust.
> >> >>
> >> >>https://lwn.net/Articles/1050174/
> >> >
> >> > Well THAT'S interesting. I'm still trying to figure out how I feel
> >> > about all that and the comments. The referenced article and
> >> > comments seem to imply that the long term goal is a pure-Rust
> >> > kernel and drivers.
> >>
> >> The long-term goal of the people pushing Rust is pushing Rust. One
> >> could also call it 1970sd, as it's still supposed to sort out turf
> >> wars of the 1970s. And to get rid of dynamic linking, obviously,
> >> because that's this awful new-fangled 1980s invention which lets
> >> user CHANGE (Gaaaaahhh!) running code and nobody hates change more
> >> than those who want to force it on others.
> >>
> >> >>No idea if the link can be accessed w/o a subscription. This has
> >> >>greatly reduced my enthusiasm for this language because it if was
> >> >>really good for something and not just some people's
> >> >>techno-partisan "true love", such mandates wouldn't be necessary.
> >> >
> >> > They'd be necessary if long term you want your kernel and drivers
> >> > to be written in only one language. Until 5 years ago, you could
> >> > only do Kernel/Driver work in C. Does that mean that C must be bad
> >> > because if it weren't, peoples' "true love" would make such a
> >> > mandate unnecessary?
> >>
> >> Some time in the 1990s, someone chose C as programming language for a
> >> hobby project. It wasn't mandated by a bunch of solutions pushers
> >> working for US megacorps. You have your history somewhat wrong.
> >>
> >> > Of course, more to your point, with an Ada-only kernel, the
> >> > developers of the Rust compiler would have an insane amount of
> >> > power.
> >>
> >> ,,, and on to one of those tiresome political arguments. Not. I
> >> originally considered Rust and interesting language because they
> >> actually had a new idea for memory management, despite piggy-backing
> >> MUST GET RID OF DYNAMIC LINKING!!1 onto that dented my hopes
> >> somewhat.
> >>
> >> The abovementioned makes it pretty clear that the very people pushing
> >> Rust are convinced that it cannot successfully compete in a
> >> marketplace of idead on merit.
> >>
> >> Hence, end of the story, insofar I'm concerned. They must know this
> >> better than I do.
> >>
> >> NB: I will not participarte in any kind of "My programming language
> >> is longer than your programming language!" discussion.
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