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> But lets assume that there is a magic version of rust which solves
> all security issues and enables even the most sloppy of coders write
> bullet proof code. The consequence of this will be that software will
> become totally coercive. Jailbreaking your fridge to have it stop
> playing ads won't be feasible. Breaking the bios to let you load your
> own distribution - nah, not a thing.
>

Seems like a good thing but taking your point I wonder whether that would
actually result in more devices like fair phone? as more users would be more
grumpy about it rather than just hacking it or taking it to a phone shop to be
hacked and being told you should have bought one of these instead.

> The internet had an article about payment networks with a title
> (I probably butchered it) "The optimal amount of fraud is nonzero" and
> I'd add to this to say that the optimal number of buffer overflows is
> nonzero too.

I don't understand this and always assumed when considering some of their
decisions that banks like to hide something within the fraud. Could you
elaborate on the theory of non-zero fraud is not optimal?

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All the best,
             Kevin Chadwick