On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 at 04:46, Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
> Second, I find it amusing that the addition of a field, which as far as
> I know doesn't even need to be populated, is what finally got people to
> pay attention. Not the overcomplexification. Not the blackboxism. Not
> the "all your computing belongs to us" tude. Well, I guess whatever
> makes them understand :-)
>
> Third, knowing systemd, soon they'll incorporate aged.

Speaking for myself alone, this was the trigger, but definitely not
the entire reason. It's a general philosophy and direction of
movement, and as you say in your third point, this is very likely to
become an actual feature. The overcomplexification? The blackboxism?
Those are mildly annoying but not enough to make me research distros.

I've been using Linux for many years. My first distro was Ubuntu,
which I used until they started pushing Unity, and that was the point
at which I went looking for other distros; went for Debian. They were
on sysvinit at the time. When Debian moved to systemd, I was fine
migrating. Yes, it doesn't follow the "do one thing well" Unix
philosophy, but I'm also happy to use the Linux kernel, which is very
much "do everything" already (no, I'm not switching to Hurd). The
issues with systemd have never been big enough to make me switch, and
even now, it's not a single thing that's pushing me away, it's the
overall accumulation.

So, thank you to the Devuan folks for providing an alternative
philosophy. I'm not instantly jumping ship, but I am looking at my
next system upgrade being in that direction.

ChrisA