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Author: Patrice Riemens
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Subject: Re: [Bricolabs] curious about this event in amsterdam
> hi shu lea,
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>> i am interested in what bronac brought up - the divide of we and
>> them....
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> i guess that will only get bigger, as the last bits of public money are
> drained from the nation states to co invest with private wealth in the
> 'smart cities', they will be gated, militarized and it will become more
> medieval, the middle class was a historical concept tied to a moment of
> capitalism where it needed mass, scale and numbers


Reading this I get visions of this film ('Children of men' 2006)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/combined
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>> I propose a major composting datadump for the net......
>> biodegradable data processed by the worms...
>> hopefully a new sprout.....
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> that's where i believe agenvy lies, i am far too positive
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> http://robvankranenburgs.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/a-proactive-vision-on-a-full-internet-of-things-where-the-lights-are-on-all-is-transaction-and-engineered-narrativity/
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> but as the proposal is 'absurd' it makes sense to propose it now. In that
> text I am in discussion with friends on this notion of taking control on
> device level on the status of the 'passport' and i agree that that is an
> awkward moment.
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> Still if we want to be this new sprout and take it to a different level
> that we must renegiociate old givens. Social to me then means a new set of
> relationships between human beings, machines, animals, plants and Climate
> Change.
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> The real 'fight' has not changed much since the beginning of 'time' or how
> we conceived it to be 'time'. That is up to each an every one of us
> personally. You go left, you go right, according to your consciousness and
> deep intuition of what you know is true.
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> I guess every generational thinking has to face a kind of ultimate
> actualization of true/false. We do not have to look far: ultimate or total
> connectivity.
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> Still this to me is a given. It is the stakeholders that matter,
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> Greetings! Rob
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