hi Atteqa,
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 02:43:55PM +0500, Atteqa Malik wrote:
> i would refer to orgs like CDI as not "they" but "it"
i'm used to think in terms of humans: an organisation is an "it"
composed by "them humans" they compose the organisation with their
subjectivity, their whole life and relationships, as in the so called
"biopolitical" interpretation of labour. especially in case of NGOs.
> an ideology that originated as early as the colonial days but that
> is supported by the overall ideology of dominance of lets say Europe
> and America over the rest of the world
yes, former colonialist and slave-trader countries are still those
imposing a top-down a linear path of development in the neocolonialist
era. this is hopefully due to an end, as the BRICO countries can
finally appropriate the merit of an "alter", of another development
(not just sub- development).
> UN, etc. would follow the same ideology, so actually CDI is a
> manifestation rather than origination of thought
NGOs like CDI are the manifestation of a so called "peripheral
fordism" which still keeps integral the neocolonialist dependence:
they made it possible to reorganize dependence in terms of development
rather than sovereign.
but the attempt to establish an inter-national entity like UN is
completely different, ideally dealing with human rights and a
supra-national governance in defence of them.
as the nation-states are basically disintegrating (or imploding), the
need of such an entity as UN is growing, but unfortunately their
success is inversely proportional to this need.
> cultural, religious and other reasons make us in the third world
> very "dheet" or stubborn that is not the exact translation, we sway
> whichever way the wind blows but when bored come back to our
> original positions
to me it sounds like a try and error process which weakens the great
potential lying in the "alterity" of communities and humanities so far
relegated in the image of a "third world".
> the young people through media, not just internet, but tv, radio,
> have access to a global vision that we never had.
yes, a global vision which is completely manipulated by foreign powers
and ultimately will lead to governments like the current Italian one
(which used to be one of the most powerful and culturally rich G8
countries)..
> They are so smart, you cant fool them easily and if so, not for too
> long. Trust is a long term thing and once you lose it with them its
> hard to gain it back and they have a great peer to peer network to
> diss you.
i agree on this. noone can fool us for too long.
> But its true they need a lot of guidance which is not really coming
> their way either in terms of proper schooling or mentors.
the need for proper schooling and mentors is less and less, as
information is available everywhere, the main role for pupils is playd
by their own parents and their capacity to instigate in them the will
for more knowledge. once they have that, it's all up for grabs.
the problem would be if knowledge (and functional systems) get closed
by the same old colonialist powers, then there would be again the need
for mentoring (and guess who would control it?)
[...]
> Just waiting for open source infrastructure to become user friendly
> enough would keep us behind maybe another century and no one wants
> that.
then go ahead with such a myopical vision of being ruled once again by
the mega-corporations (currently on a big crisis BTW) who are just the
re-incarnation of colonialist expansion of sovereign in the domain of
immaterial labour.
it is not just about us, here and now. it's about those who will come
and the infrastructure they'll inherit from our choices. fast
development is worth less than slow but steady development, based on
fully accessible and appropriable knowledge.
all the above of course IMHO, and i'm studying more in these
directions, so i hope to improve and enrich this vision also thanks to
your objections, practical approach and field experience.
ciao
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