Hallo Felipe,
I think that is up to us. I don't think the youg chinese shaizans can be
expected to have this attitude, but maybe they can, they are wired, web2.0
and might decide not to build googles and microsofts ( as we have to
believe also coming out of a garage:) and apple but
stay low and under the radar. They have grown up in the network and look
differently to money as the main currency, but attention, respect and
hopefully solidarities/family/tribe.
If I may be so bold I think that we - ok I say 'we' as in here on the
list' doing violence to all idiosyncracies, can stop and say enough and
stay small and disappear into other modes of production: poetry, football,
beach football, art, autonomy, gardening, it is mostly, and this is
something you said when we
first started articulating- , about friends and making an impact together,
not ego or misguided attempts to become 'big' or aim to be around 'famous'
people who could supposedly have an impact. That makes us pretty strong as
we do not sell or ask for anything, and thus paradoxically and inevitably
we are 'wanted'.
Interdepent sustainability is it possible? I don't know, can multitudes
selforganize? It takes discipline to be an anarchist, something quite
different from what it has become to be in the popular press.
Interdependent greedy madness is what characterizes this system, and even
today the banks just go ahead as if nothing happened!
In Poland, in Malapolska only there are 4500 families with kids that can
be characterized as 'Euro orphans'. They are angry, full of stress,
violent and out of control. They have lots of IT, game on expensive
computers, but they have no parents. They are in London, Amsterdam and
Rome making money for their children to have all that fancy IT. Beyond
irony or sarcasm.
I have always been reading Jose Ortega Y Gasset a lot. I like the Revolt
of the Masses. He talks about minorities, also minorities of the mind and
maybe not the right word here 'soul'.
I'm beginning to think we can only do our best in being very good
examples, building good tools for the coming generation of these few
individuals who we will see when they get there, and then they will teach
us how to be relevant again for a a while,
Big hug, Rob
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Felipe Fonseca wrote:
> Ei Rob
>
> My question is: how long until such a succeeding ecology attracts
> interest of big corporate interests that can unbalance the equation by
> pouring lots of money in whatever seems to be the most profitable of
> those small businesses? For it to work should we expect every one of
> them to be enlightened enough as to say "the money I now earn is enough,
> stick that offer up your cu"?
>
> Is "interdependent sustainability" feasible out there in real world?
>
> efe
>
> Rob van Kranenburg escreveu:
> > hi everybody,
> >
> > from a discussion on:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing?hl=en
> >
> > "Interesting article on the links between open hardware, open
> > manufacturing and China cheap hardware manufacturers.
> >
> > "Idle speculation on the shan zhai and open fabrication"
> >
> > http://www.tigoe.net/blog/category/environment/295/
> >
> > Massimo Menichinelli
> > http://www.openp2pdesign.org/
> > http://twitter.com/openp2pdesign"
> >
> > greetings, rob
> >
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