Hallo all,
Yes I agree too, but is that the point?
Does this mean I try not to invite Ian through a Picnic event that pays
for his travel and get him over?
If we really are going to look at all the rhetoric of all the festivals,
or all the funders then we're going to have a hard time travelling.
"We have in France such " recupération" systems, organisations, and
events. They try to attract artists and thinkers, just to suck their
creativity and ideas for business."
Yes, but that is the story of 'our' life, no? They can go to visit
gallerlies if you put up your pictures, they can you read your poetry,
so what does that mean, not publish?
I really think we can not go into the 21th century or make a network
politics if we can not overcome this dichotomy caused by this rhetoric.
If we don't think we are stronger, that a networked open source
bricolabs front can work in the coming decades, then we mighta as well
not do anything or go into our homes and shut the doors. We can not hand
over these dicotomies of commercial, non commercial so onesidedly to a
new young generation,
greetings, rob
Greetings, Rob
Jean-Noël Montagné schreef:
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> I agree with Patrice and Jaromil 's opinions. Especially when I read
> this statement on their website:
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> The/* PICNIC Labs*/ are practical workshops that challenge you to
> re-imagine your business, develop new products and services, refine
> ideas and formats and come up with creative business concepts
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> We have in France such " recupération" systems, organisations, and
> events. They try to attract artists and thinkers, just to suck their
> creativity and ideas for business.
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> JN
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>> re all,
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>> i think Patrice is right.
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>> for a full panorama of Amsterdam's decadent creative industry scene
>> please refer to Marijn's article in MyCreativity reader
>> http://www.networkcultures.org/weblog/archives/2008/01/out_now_mycreat.html
>> quick link: http://www.networkcultures.org/_uploads/32.pdf
>> and search inside for 'picnic'
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>> the whole article is really worth to read, M.O. wrote already some
>> very interesting analysis on a past number of Mute, he is the best one
>> to describe our feeling as "creatives working and living in A'dam"
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>> Rob: the dilemma is here: are we trying to change things or make them
>> better? and how much can we change by just "making them better"? i'm
>> sure a facelift of picnic won't benefit us, not even with money.
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>> ciao
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